Sex in the monastery – Bangkok Post

LESSONS FROM OUR NEIGHBOR:

A FEW BAD MONKS’ ACTIONS CAN SMEAR ALL THE GOOD NOBLE MONKS. A ROTTEN FISH CAN SPOIL THE WHOLE BOATFUL.

THAT’S WHY THE COMMUNITY AND THE MONKS CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT LOOK THE OTHER WAY. “I GOT MY KUTHO, I DON’T CARE OR I DON’T WANT TO KNOW”  ATTITUDE IS WRONG.

CRITICIZING PEOPLE WHO EXPOSE BAD MONKS AS “MA KAUNG BAR BHUU/NOT GOOD” OR “NGA YARE GYI MARE/BIG HELL” IS LIKE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH’S COVERING UP.

COVERING UP AND NOT FACING THE PROBLEM AND SOLVING IT, IS REALLY “NGA YARE GYI” AND ENCOURAGING THE WRONGDOERS. EVEN BUDDHA INVITED CRITICISM AND QUESTIONS.

BUDDHA ALSO ADMONISHED BAD MONKS, TOO. NO “NGA YARE GYI” FOR BUDDHA, BUT NIRVANA FOR DOING THAT.

BUDDHA, HIMSELF, SET DOWN THE VINAYA MONKS’ RULES. ARE THEY FOR SHOW? ARE THEY THERE FOR BAD MONKS TO BREAK AT WILL AND  FLAUNT THEIR MISDEEDS?

THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON. TO PROLONG THE SASANA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUDDHISTS BELIEVE LIVING IN BUDDHA’S SASANA IS A GREAT BLESSING.

STANDING UP TO TYRANTS, TIGERS, LIONS, DRAGONS, DEMONS, THIEVES, ROBBERS, DACOITS, OGRES, MONSTERS, ETC….IS A FORM OF “DANA/DONATION” (GOOGLE “DANA”)

THE THAI MONKS COUNCIL HAS BEEN TAKING ACTIONS. HOWEVER, SOME CRITICIZE THESE ACTIONS AS RATHER SLOW OR NOT ENOUGH.

Sex in the monastery

http://www.bangkokpost.com/blogs/index.php/2009/01/30/sex-in-the-monastery?blog=64

We used to be shocked by sex scandals in the clergy. Given the endless stream of those wrongdoings, we no longer are. Heterosex has also become old news. The rage now is about gay and paedophile monks.

The latest scandal involved an abbot in Nakhon Si Thammarat. His lover accused him of being unfaithful after finding out that the abbot had invited a group of teenagers to drink and party at his quarters. The last straw was reportedly the taint of semen on the abbot’s mattress.

Their quarrel turned violent. The jilted lover, after being beaten up, reported the matter to the police. The abbot fled and quit the monkhood to avoid arrest and forced disrobement.

Having sexual intercourse, either straight or gay, is a cardinal sin in the monks’ code of conduct. Their monkhood automatically ends once they commit the crime. When found out, they must be expelled from the clergy.

Other three cardinal sins include stealing, killing and boasting of supernatural powers.

How many “real” monks do we have left nowadays, given the widespread sex scandals, temple corruption and commercialisation of Buddhism?

The scandalous case of the Nakhon Si Thammarat abbot has highlighted the issue of homosexuality in the clergy which has never received any serious attention from the elders.

Well, what’s new? The elders, comfortable in their cocoon of prestige and wealth, have never paid attention to any problems that have eroded public faith in the clergy anyway.

Since the abbot had already quit the monkhood, the issue was considered closed. As a matter of procedure, the Office of National Buddhism has advised abbots nationwide to be more strict with ordination since it is against the vinaya to ordain the “pandaka,” which is routinely translated as “homosexuals”.

In today’s more liberal society, the issue of homosexuality and ordination has posed a challenge to traditional Buddhists. Since the Buddha says all human beings have the Buddha nature in themselves, meaning that everyone has the potential to attain nirvana, or spiritual liberation. So why not gays of all shades too?

If women in Theravada Buddhism feel they have the right to be ordained so they can earnestly practice to transcend the illusion of self, lust, greed, anger and hatred, why then should this spiritual chance be denied to gay men and women?

Some Buddhist experts have interpreted the ordination rule against the pandaka as applicable only to transvestites. But this remains debatable. Traditionalists would say it applies to gay men as a whole since it is considered too dangerous to put fuel near a fire.

May I add my two cents?

The issue here is not about the ordination rule or homosexuality. It is about violation of the vow of celibacy. And in many cases concerning the scandal of gay monks, it is about the sexual abuse of children. It is about letting paedophiles have a field day in the clergy.

Gay or straight, this must not be tolerated.

Many say they have noticed a stark increase in the number of “katoey” novices who show little restraint in expressing themselves, including the use of cosmetics, the readjusting of robes for a fashionable look, and the public display of feminine gestures. Could this suggest rife sexual abuse of minors in the temple, too?

Inside temples, stories abound of paedophile sex. Not only novices but temple boys are vulnerable to this abuse. If the abbots are not the abusers themselves, they often involved other senior monks.

Many abbots confess their fear to intervene, not only with sexual matters but also other misconduct. Drugs, for example. The temples have become a refuge for people with problematic backgrounds and are ridden with power plays between cliques and factions. Trying to expel rogue monks, they say, might cost them their lives.

And why do anything when the top monks do not care anyway?

The monks’ sex scandals are just one of the symptoms of the crisis in the clergy. When monks no longer know what ordination and monkhood means, there is little hope for change.

10 thoughts on “Sex in the monastery – Bangkok Post

  1. Kyaemon May 30, 2010 at 8:09 pm Reply

    COMMENT 1 from Bangkok Post
    All monks should follow and keep all Sila of monks. Otherwise it will affect to image Buddhisim. If they cannot follow the sila or rules. Quit from monkhood is better. Otherwise they look like cheating. We people are donating monks or monastery with belief of they are practicing, maintaining real Buddhism. No w

  2. Kyaemon May 30, 2010 at 8:10 pm Reply

    COMMENT 1 from Bangkok Post
    All monks should follow and keep all Sila of monks. Otherwise it will affect to image Buddhisim. If they cannot follow the sila or rules. Quit from monkhood is better. Otherwise they look like cheating. We people are donating monks or monastery with belief of they are practicing, maintaining real Buddhism. No way to donate for the cheating men or liers.

  3. Kyaemon May 30, 2010 at 8:12 pm Reply

    COMMENT 6

    We reap what we sow. A person when sinned in monk’s clothing will reap the heaviest punishment during judgment day. For those who tarnish the image of the saint will be sentence to hell and never be reborn. This is written in the scripture. If you are brave to take the punishment, then carry on. But my advice is to avoid any wrong doing. Especially spreading falsehood in the name of Buddha.
    Amitabha…..

  4. Kyaemon May 30, 2010 at 8:13 pm Reply

    Comment 8
    No need to stop donation to all monks.
    But need to find out, differentiate between pure monks and dirty, fraud, cheating monks who enjoy in using facilities as laymen and having sex.
    Then we need to let those fraud monks quit from monk-hood who cannot follow and keep the sila of monks or who break the rules of monks.
    We still need the monks who really practice Buddha teaching and maintain the Buddhism.

  5. Kyaemon June 1, 2010 at 1:13 am Reply

    comment29
    Buddhism is good in itself , all discipline and rules are stipulated for monks and novices to hold and follow. sexual intercourse or any other means which imply or relate to sexual activities are all prohibited . buddhism itself is always pure and cannot be contaminated. in any societies there have good and bad persons , in buddhism too , so donot blame buddhism but how to get rid of those bad monks and novices away.

  6. Kyaemon June 2, 2010 at 4:18 am Reply

    Comment 61
    Buddhism in Thailand is fast becoming nothing more than a business, business and corruption
    seem co-dependent in Thailand.

  7. Kyaemon June 2, 2010 at 2:52 pm Reply

    Comment 109
    I have heard lot of about Monks. Honestly people who disobey their own rule and discipline , they should be punished hard. Especially these kind of Monks who made sin , should be punished heavily.

  8. Kyaemon June 4, 2010 at 5:40 am Reply

    comment 36
    Moo’s comments #27 is right on the mark. Most Thais don’t believe in themselves. They are very superstitious, spirit house on every home, so many fortune tellers make a good living in Thailand. It is a failed hope!

  9. Kyaemon June 5, 2010 at 7:09 pm Reply

     comment 37

    Buddhism is one of the best “religions”. I would recommend reading “The God delusion” written by Richard Dawkins. He is an atheist, but acknowledges the need for religious teaching, as a way of attaining right thinking and about living with values. He clearly sees that Buddhism is less religious than other religions.
    Just look at the chaos and crimes that have and continue to be committed in the name of the same God that Jews, Christians and Muslims follow.
    Better we as a species regional altogether, but if we must, be as the original teaching of the greatest teacher, Buddha, gave us.

  10. Kyaemon June 5, 2010 at 7:09 pm Reply

    Comment 45
    Hey, ALL religions are the SAME!

    ALL take your time and your money!

    Then ALL promise there’s a better place after you die!

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